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#374408 - 23/07/2024 02:55 Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)?
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Douglas Trumbull's 1983 film "Brainstorm" has been a personal favorite since its theatrical release. There's a scene in the middle of the film where Natalie Wood's character quietly sings a song to Christopher Walken's character. She sings it in a very silly style, mostly reciting it rather than really singing it. It's a very adorable and romantic moment when taken in context. If you haven't seen the film, I highly recommend it.

Anyway, I can't find the source of the song. Google isn't finding anything. The song sounds like an excerpt from an existing song, though it doesn't seem to be listed in the end credits. I suppose it could possibly have been written specifically for the film, though the way it's used in the film makes it sound like an existing song that the characters know together.

Does anyone recognize the song outside the context of the film? Its lyrics are:

In this place we're all together now
Figuring out and figuring out who's crazy
And afterwards, we go out and have a nice coffee
And we smoke a cigarette and make a dream
That everybody in the world will be good
And then we'll be nervous no more
And these are the hopes and the dreams of beautiful people like me
And the other people
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#374410 - 30/07/2024 16:12 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
larry818
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Registered: 01/10/2002
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So this made me rewatch the movie... still one of my all time favorites.

I did a quick search around and the only reference I could find was a Finnish language site that uses some of the song as examples of how to use 'nervous'... so maybe it's a forgotten Finnish song?

https://fi.glosbe.com/fi/en/hermoilet

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#374411 - 31/07/2024 17:39 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31590
Loc: Seattle, WA
Very interesting find!

The screenwriter describes the scene as being an important part of the original idea for the script: https://www.brucejoelrubin.com/brainstorm.html

The biographical information about him on Wikipedia doesn’t indicate that he speaks Finnish, but he is well-traveled (though Finland is not mentioned).

I wonder if the scene is somewhat autobiographical and the song came from his actual wife?

I have emailed him. :-)
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#374412 - 01/08/2024 15:54 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31590
Loc: Seattle, WA
Alas, Bruce says he has no memory of the song or how it ended up in the film.

My guess, then, would be that it came from someone other than the screenwriter. Can’t ask Douglas Trumbull, the director, he died a few years ago. (I didn’t think to ask him this question when I spoke to him at a Q&A session several years ago when he was still alive.) Natalie Wood famously died during the film’s production. I suppose I could see if Christopher Walken remembers? Wonder if I could contact him through his agent or something. It seems unlikely that he’d know or remember, so I probably shouldn’t bug him.
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#374413 - 01/08/2024 19:54 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 775
Loc: Washington, DC metro
If you're reaching out, perhaps one of the people who did music on the movie remembers?

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#374414 - 02/08/2024 04:51 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: jmwking]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
It's not a song that shows up in the credits, at least I didn't see it there. James Horner composed the score but I don't expect he had anything to do with the script in that scene.
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#374415 - 05/08/2024 14:45 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
Do you mind if I post your question to a few film communities I belong to? Perhaps widening the search could yield some results...

*edit*
There's one group I belong to, where I've posted partially-remembered films that I watched 30 years ago and asked anyone if they might be able to identify what I was thinking of, and they were able to get both of them pretty quickly. This is a different kind of question, of course, but I'd like to put them to the test!


Edited by Dignan (05/08/2024 14:47)
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#374416 - 06/08/2024 19:08 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31590
Loc: Seattle, WA
Please do. And send me links to the posts. And mention that I already talked to the screenwriter. smile
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#374417 - 21/08/2024 14:25 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
My favorite podcast is Blank Check, a podcast about auteur directors who have initial huge success and how they use that success to make the films they want to make. I've posted to their reddit.

One of my other favorites is one of the longest-running podcasts around, The Flophouse. Basically the original "bad movie" podcast. Their Facebook group is basically the single bright light in that god-forsaken platform, as far as I'm concerned. I apologize but apparently it's not public so I can't share the post, but I fully cross-posted it to their community as well. They're the ones that I've had great success in ID'ing things with.

I hope we get an answer! These are the biggest movie nerd circles that I run with, so if they don't know the answer, then I'm probably of no further help! laugh

But there's a possibility that the expert community you'll end up needing is not in the movie world. You might be in more need of a musicologist or something...
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#374428 - 04/09/2024 05:46 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12332
Loc: Sterling, VA
Ok so... That was a complete bust! Sorry Tony
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#374433 - 05/09/2024 01:20 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31590
Loc: Seattle, WA
Thanks for trying!

Also, regarding the suggestion of asking the film's composer: I hadn't realized James Horner died in 2015. He was a treasure, I loved all of his film scores.
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#374434 - 05/09/2024 11:14 Re: Help me name this song from the movie Brainstorm (1983)? [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12332
Loc: Sterling, VA
Yeah that’s a sad one.
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