Ok, I've gone and done it and ordered the empeg. However, I only run linux and would like to be able to use more than just the serial connection. I already use USB and IR on my linux laptop and would be willing to test/assist/develop better support for Linux. What is the current state of play? Is anything under way? Is the source code available for the windows software (presuming you don't have protocol specs) and the comms drivers on the empeg?

Paul

The current state of linux support is limited: we have the upgrader (which is serial only, anyway) and an as yet unreleased tune downloader for linux (we hope to tidy this and release it in the next couple of weeks, with source). John has been working on a 2.3 USB driver and has something working on this front I believe.

Source isn't available for the windows downloader, no. The protocol isn't documented, but we will be releasing the source which we use for windows/unix when the linux downloader is made available.

Hugo

> an as yet unreleased tune downloader for linux

Please tell me I am going to be able to use it when I get it? I ordered it on the strength of this: "We will be offering some basic Linux downloader software with the unit when it ships" on your web site.

Paul

If you're planning to release source anyway, release it now. We are used to flaky source :-)
Maybe we're able to help you fixing it. (Anyone planed to create palm playlist editor? ;)

Thanks

--
Raphael Wegmann
raphael@psi.co.at

> Anyone planed to create palm playlist editor?

... and remote IRDA controller, yes.

> If you're planning to release source anyway, release it now.
> We are used to flaky source :-)
> Maybe we're able to help you fixing it.

Seconded. If I had a pound for every day I've waited for someone to "just clean up the source a bit" before they release it, I'd be a rich man.

Please release the linux serial and USB software asap, finished or not.

Thanks in advance,

Paul

We can't at the moment as we need to separate some bits from some of our shared libraries. Patience :)

Hugo

It's not a "cleaning up" source, it's removing entaglements from stuff we're not releasing, so that it'll build cleanly standalone. Won't be long, honest :)

Hugo

> It's not a "cleaning up" source, it's removing entaglements from stuff we're not releasing,
> so that it'll build cleanly standalone. Won't be long, honest :)

Some of us have been waiting years for this, please don't delay. As it stands I'm stuck with the one pre-loaded track.

Even if it doesn't compile it'd be useful. Rip out the parts you don't want to share and we can figure out the remains.

yours, Dean

> As it stands I'm stuck with the one pre-loaded track.

So was I until Hugo sent me some linux software last week :-)
Email support and ask them to put a link to the (beta) Linux software
on their upgrades page.

Paul

hello. I'm getting extremely frustrated. This might as well be a loaf of bread sitting here. I cannot use it unless I have linux software.

while you wait, way install a trial verison of VMware for linux and install windows on that.
p.s. you will only get serial, not yet USB suport

Mark
emaks rouls #10677
want a 100GB model, even I only have colecet 18GB

> I cannot use it unless I have linux software.

Me neither. But empeg sent me the Linux software three weeks ago when I asked
them for it.

Paul

There's no need to sit around getting frustrated! The Linux software isn't downloadable because it's a controlled release (binary only) at the moment, but if you want it just email support@empeg.com.

Before the open source people start whinging, the Linux downloader WILL be released with source, just as soon as we've finalised the protocols and removed any licensed bits of code that might still be visible.

Sorry, I don't own any microsoft products. I also don't think I should need to purchase them if I want to use a linux based machine. The idea is rediculous.
I'll email support@empeg.com and try to get the binary.
thanks

Try http://www2.empeg.com/upgrades/test/beta7/

The linux tools have been released too.


- John.

(The above may not represent the views of Empeg :)

woohoo!
Thanks John!

I've had some problems running the emptool binary on my FreeBSD box (via Linux emulation). I'm guessing its soemthing to do with tty bit twiddling differences.

Once the source is unentangled, what are the chances it will build and run on 'bsd (or other unixes for that matter)?

brian

Well, it builds & runs under win32 (command line) - we use it in-house to check units are working and load some free music. All the comms specific stuff is in the Connection class, and so can be replaced/twiddled for BSD as necessary with little hassle - also, when you do the Connection class the upgrader will start to work too...

Hugo