I am having a problem getting a new 48gig hard disk to install. The old 10gig still works fine in this Rio v2a, and I just upgraded it to 2.00b3 without a problem. With (only) the new disk installed, I ran the new builder program ( 20011022 ) and that appeared to run ok ( left it testing disk for >1 hour ). But now when I try and install either consumer or developer images, it runs for a while, but during one of the final reboots I get :

Error "Bad pump response to device select" occurred during stage 0x20

On the Rio display ( after the above error ) the player finishes rebooting and says

Builder Image
Drive(s) appear to be already built.

Below is a log from a boot of the drive now :

to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg49 (mac@aphex.internal.empeg.com) (gcc versi
on 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #127 Wed Oct 17 16:02:35 BST 2001
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 10101911)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 15024k/16M available (964k code, 20k reserved, 372k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 206f6972 'rio '
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb ive to d0005000).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
e
ve
hda: IC25T048ATDA05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T048ATDA05-0, ATA DISK drive
hda: IC25T048ATDA05-0, ATA DISK drive
e
hda:
nter pump...tDrive(s) appear to be already built. Skipping.
Press return to continue anyway - anything else to start a shell.
q
bash-2.01# ls -l
total 24
1024 Nov 26 1999 dev
drwxr-xr-x 5 0 0 1024 Feb 9 11:38 drive0
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jun 2 1999 drive1
drwxr-xr-x 4 0 0 1024 Jul 12 1999 empeg
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 024 Jun 19 1999 etc
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jun 7 1999 lib
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 12288 Oct 22 2001 lost+found
drwxr-xx 2 0 0 1024 Jun 2 1999 mnt
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jun 2 1999 proc
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Au 8 2000 sbin
drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Apr 13 1999 tmp
drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 1024 Jun 1 1999 usr
bash-2.01#

Any suggestions ?

Greetings!

Are you running a 10GB in combination with a 48GB? I know that archeon has a similar configuration and was running into all sorts of interesting problems with it...

I remember seeing a similar error one time with the old builder on the 48GB drive I am using as the slave drive. I just continued normally, and it seemed to work fine.

You might want to try a rebuild on that drive. Also, the new builder is beta. I used the old version of the builder on mine. You might want to try to fall back to that builder version and see it that helps also.

Ahh, there you are , I couldn't remember who had already done it.

I have removed the 10gig and am trying to install TWO new 48gig drives. The old builder program does not work on the new drives. The new builder program does complete its task.

Its when I try and get an image ( have tried dev and consumer images going back all the way to v1).

It appears like the problem with v2 beta over serial/USB, where its a timing issue in that the empeg does not reboot quick enough at one point.

Managed to install v200b3 on one disk, and looks like its installing just fine on the second disk now.

Maybe it is due to the fact I dug out an old ( slow ) laptop with Win98 and ran the Player Upgrade from that ( rather than fast Win2k laptop ).

Maybe its just luck ( although I must have tried the install near 50 times without any joy )

Maybe its because I just screwed the HD's into the cradle ( although they were resting insulated from the Empeg chasis before this ).

Greetings!

I know the 48GB drives seem a lot more tempermental. I personally had success with the old version of the builder, but I was using a Mark2, not the 2a. That error had come up on the second drive, but I was able to go ahead with the build, and (after loading the developer kernel and looking around) loaded everything up.

The bug with sync under 2.0b3 is with a lot of large drives, more likely to happen with USB. I think there might be timing issues with the larger drives, expecting the player to respond more quickly and having it time out while the drive is still doing its thing. I know that the sync bug is a known bug, FITNR. I personally would like to see some of the timeouts increased, especially where reboots are needed. When you have a lot more drive space to work with, you need the time to finish your housekeeping.

I find the player takes a bit more time to boot / rebuild databases, but I have not had any operational problems with the combination.

You will find the extra space very nice indeed!!!

If you run into problems, send me email. It has been a while, but I might be able to help.

A while? Only a couple of days I thought Paul!

Mardibloke :
I too had a lot of troubles combining a 10 gig with a 48gig, and I finally gave in : I'm only using the 48gig now, because those two seemed like an impossible combination.
I will buy a second 48gig in due time, and see what that gives...

I too had the same error you had, but I encoutered it because I used the 'old' car2.builder.image, which wasn't suited for the Mk2a's, only mk2's. The new builder (update two weeks ago) should have solved all those problems.
As many problems as I already had with my Mk2a, I never had any problems installing a consumer or developer build though.

Actually, just having flashbacks to my own install. Doing both drives, impatiently waiting for the software load to complete, so I could test it with emplode...

Just to chime in, I recently added a 48 to my "10 Gig" Mk.2a. The actual drive as shipped from Empeg was a 12.0GB Travelstar, and I added the 48GB Travelstar with no trouble. The hardest part of the install was finding a 2mm jumper. I disconnected the 12GB, connected the 48GB, ran the new builder, followed by the current beta developer build, and then added the slave jumper and reinstalled the 12GB. No problems reported; all appears well, it seems to be booting from the 12GB, and as of now there's about 6GB of music on the second drive. (Though, the drive= advanced search doesn't seem to work in emplode...)

Well, good dor you! I'm glad somebody's having good luck installing these drives

Though there's somebody else on this board who had also had good luck combining a 12gig with the 48gig. I have a 10gig. So far I've read of nobody other than myself who had tried this combination. I'm still sticking to my first thought : those two drives don't mix...

Though, the drive= advanced search doesn't seem to work in emplode

Um, true. That's NYI in the player.

Peter