#49118 - 05/12/2001 12:27
Stuck!
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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http://www.input-entertainment.de/laser/laser.html
I can't get past level 23. There are a total of 25 levels. Anyone got a solution to 23?
Note: I had trouble getting this one to work in Netscape or Flash4, it works in IE with Flash5, though.
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#49119 - 05/12/2001 12:59
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
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Wow... that is some cool little puzzle game you found there... I'll try to see how far I can get...
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#49120 - 05/12/2001 13:00
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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haha, that's funny, i've been playing that on and off for a week. I've now been stuck at level 17 for a few hours. Good stuff!
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#49121 - 05/12/2001 13:02
Re: Stuck!
[Re: loren]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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What was the password to 17 again? I'll try to work out the solution again.
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#49122 - 05/12/2001 13:05
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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dma.
Just tell me where the splitter goes and i'll stop driving myself nuts with it! This is the only one that's stumped me and i know i'm gonna wanna smack myself after i get it.
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#49124 - 05/12/2001 13:24
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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*me shoots self*
That's exactly where i had the splitter and double mirror. It was the redirection on the right side that threw me. I had it stuck in my head that i couldn't recover the laser after it passed through that bulb on the right. SOB. Thanks!
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#49125 - 05/12/2001 13:28
Re: Stuck!
[Re: loren]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Level 23 has a problem like that, except on 23 it really is a dead-end so you have to make sure it's the last bulb. The problem is having enough mirrors and benders to get through all the other bulbs. I always end up short at least one mirror or bender. Wait until you get there, you'll see what I mean.
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#49126 - 05/12/2001 14:42
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
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I just spent about an hour durring lunch and got through the first 16 levels... Pretty cool stuff! This is one of the coolest online puzzles I've seen.
Damn... I wish I hadn't just seen the answer to 17... Oh well.
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#49127 - 05/12/2001 16:06
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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addict
Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
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Okay, I think this game has caused many lost production hours here at work. I sent it to a bunch of friends and we're all playing it.
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#49128 - 05/12/2001 16:27
Re: Stuck!
[Re: svferris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, I should have warned everyone about that.
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#49129 - 05/12/2001 17:10
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 14/05/2001
Posts: 279
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I can't get past level 23. There are a total of 25 levels. Anyone got a solution to 23?
HINT: go through the center bulb 3 times.
The password for level 25 is firewire
Tom
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#49131 - 05/12/2001 19:20
Re: Stuck!
[Re: drakino]
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
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Man...you all really suck. I'm never going to get any work done now.
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#49132 - 05/12/2001 19:34
Re: Stuck!
[Re: charcoalgray99]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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HINT: go through the center bulb 3 times.
IMPRESSIVE. I had considered this as an option, and even went to the trouble of doing a test-case to make sure that three passes on a bulb would light it. I just couldn't see a way this would help me. Guess I'll have to try again.
The password for level 25 is firewire
As far as the passwords go, I'm not concerned with those any more. I figured out the files that needed to be downloaded in order to run the program locally, and the password file is in clear text. So now I can get to any level I want by typing it in (I edited the file so that the password for level 24 is "24" for example). I still want to win each of the levels though.
What's particularly interesting about this is that not only are the passwords in clear text, each level is in clear text as well. So if we wanted to, we could extend this game by reverse-engineering the level format and creating our own levels.
If you want to download all of the game data yourself, grab the following files from the program directory off of their web server:
laser.swf
config.txt
level1.txt
level2.txt
(...)
level25.txt
Then put them all in the same folder and associate ".swf" files with Internet Explorer.
So who's up for challenging each other with new levels?
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#49133 - 05/12/2001 19:47
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 14/05/2001
Posts: 279
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As far as the passwords go, I'm not concerned with those any more.
I figured you wouldn't be interested in the password to cheat; however you can use the password firewire to jump to any level quickly. After entering it, just click the minus button to increment down to the level you want, then click go. No text editing needed. No need to remember each password for every level.
I figured out the files that needed to be downloaded in order to run the program locally….
Can you tell me how you figured out the other filenames? That’s something I tried to do a long time ago for another project, and could never figure out.
Tom
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#49134 - 05/12/2001 22:46
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 14/05/2001
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IMPRESSIVE. I had considered this as an option, and even went to the trouble of doing a test-case to make sure that three passes on a bulb would light it. I just couldn't see a way this would help me. Guess I'll have to try again.
Here's a screenshot of the solution for level 23 in case the hint wasn't enough. (I had to go back and figure it out again)
Tom
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47869-level23.jpg (109 downloads)
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#49135 - 05/12/2001 23:53
Re: Stuck!
[Re: svferris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Okay, I think this game has caused many lost production hours here at work
One of the companies I do work for had to block traffic to the site... They're in the laser business
/Michael
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#49136 - 05/12/2001 23:59
Re: Stuck!
[Re: charcoalgray99]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Can you tell me how you figured out the other filenames? That’s something I tried to do a long time ago for another project, and could never figure out.
Looked in my Internet Explorer cache folder and saw a file called "level23" hanging around.
Also, by chance, their web server happens to have a feature that offers you a similar file name if you get it close. For example, if I tried to open a file from that folder called "level23.dat", a convenient page comes up offering me level23.txt, instead of a plain-old 404. That's how I found the config.txt file.
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#49138 - 06/12/2001 12:40
Re: Stuck!
[Re: drakino]
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
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Hell yeah... "Space Penguine" is an awesome example of how to waste time, curtosey of Flash.
Bilbanan and SodaPlay are a couple more good ones...
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#49139 - 06/12/2001 12:59
Re: Stuck!
[Re: Diznario]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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My boss hates you. He will be sending you a bill for all of my lost hours with that SodaPlay thing!
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#49140 - 06/12/2001 13:03
Re: Stuck!
[Re: Diznario]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, that slot-car one rocks. Can't seem to figure out how to download and run it locally on my hard drive, though. Anyone?
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#49141 - 06/12/2001 13:55
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
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Yeah, the slot car one is my favorite.
No idea how to play it locally though... Good luck!
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#49142 - 06/12/2001 13:59
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
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Heh heh heh...
I do what I can.
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#49143 - 06/12/2001 14:36
Re: Stuck!
[Re: charcoalgray99]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I just beat level 24, and it really made me mad.
The solution (at least the one I stumbled upon) depends on having the laser hit the last bulb immediately before hitting a bomb. I thought that would end the game, so I did not try it for a while. Then I thought what the heck, I'll try it, and it worked.
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#49144 - 06/12/2001 15:11
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 14/05/2001
Posts: 279
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Here is the solution I found for level 24.
I have one for 25 also, if you need it.
Tom
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47938-level24.jpg (108 downloads)
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#49145 - 06/12/2001 15:16
Re: Stuck!
[Re: charcoalgray99]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Interesting. So there's more than one solution. In mine, I ended up getting that last bulb in the far-right-center vertically and the laser hit the bomb in the corner above it.
25 is a b*tch, but I want to do that one myself, thanks. Anything special happen in the game when you win it?
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#49146 - 06/12/2001 15:22
Re: Stuck!
[Re: tfabris]
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enthusiast
Registered: 14/05/2001
Posts: 279
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Anything special happen in the game when you win it?
HAHA... it actually asks you to join a mailing list to be updated for future games/news.
Tom
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#49147 - 06/12/2001 15:33
Re: Stuck!
[Re: charcoalgray99]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Yup, beat 25 and got the sign up message, too.
I have to say that 23 was the hardest of them all. 24 and 25 were pieces of cake compared to 23.
Now, who wants to reverse-engineer that file format?
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