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#51202 - 24/12/2001 11:54 Downloading from emplode!
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Yay! Bravo for including the ability to download files from emplode! Very surprised to see it included after all of the hubub on this board about it. Excellent that it's now in there.

My only minor complaint is that the files are saved without keeping the track number... I'd love to have it save as:

artist - album - track - trackname.mp3...

Thanks! Merry X-Mas!

- Jon

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#51203 - 24/12/2001 12:22 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: jbauer]
bmiller
member

Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
I'm just glad this this ball is rolling. I'm sure, from user demand it will be configurable at some point. Or someone will hack it to give the necessary functionality.

It wouldn't be so bad if all my files had good ID3 tags in the first place. What do they say about hind sight?

It's my hope to someday download all content off my empeg, use a good ID3 tagger to clean them up and re-upload them. For now, the great features in emplode are sufficient. Just give me a way to preserve my organization in emplode when I download the files off the player, like an appropriate file namimg scheme.
I realize playlists might not be saveable but at least genre, artist, source and track number along with title.

Happy Holidays.

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#51204 - 24/12/2001 12:34 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: jbauer]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
I think it would be cool if it optionally put the Year, Genre, and Track Number into the file name. If it did that, then a quick squirt through MP3 Tag Studio would fix up all your tags for any downloaded files.

Also, its current arrangement of Album before Artist is a little strange, I always preferred Artist before Album.

I've updated the FAQ...
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#51205 - 24/12/2001 12:37 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: tfabris]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
That would be totally cool. Put some kind of setting in a menu that would allow you to include different ID3 tag info in the file name. This would greatly help in moving files from one empeg to another. It would also allow me to fix files on my HD that might have been cleaned up through emplode while they were on the empeg.
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#51206 - 24/12/2001 13:45 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: tfabris]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
You probably don't have as many compilation CD's as Roger

Rob

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#51207 - 24/12/2001 13:48 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: jbauer]
zaeno
stranger

Registered: 12/12/2001
Posts: 32
Loc: California
awsome...just awsome

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#51208 - 24/12/2001 13:48 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: bmiller]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
This first version is deliberately basic. It was implemented in just a few hours, although the underlying protocol support has existed for a very long time (and I've been hinting about that for years in every thread on the subject!).

I expect this will get more sophisticated as we add file taxi support and so forth.

Rob

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#51209 - 24/12/2001 13:51 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: rob]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
So, do you have any insight as to why the legal types decided it would be OK now?
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#51210 - 24/12/2001 13:53 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: tfabris]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The issue was passed to external counsel and researched in more depth than previously.

Rob

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#51211 - 24/12/2001 14:04 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: rob]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
I see. Well, that explains everything, then.
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#51212 - 24/12/2001 14:31 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: rob]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Is all this hard work on a "dead" product related to anything else other than the HSX

If yes cool bring on the new toys

If no cool bring on the new features and thank sonicblue big wigs for letting you do all this it is very appreciated
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#51213 - 24/12/2001 16:19 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: thinfourth2]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
As it happens this particular feature is currently used only in the car player.

Of course the car player has also benefitted from some HSX109 features and vice versa. That's why I don't think of Rio Car as a dead product - the common codebase ensures that it will be kept fresh as long as we're coding. Of course if we all make enough to retire to the Bahamas then you're in trouble, but that's not going to happen while we're selling empegs for $199

Rob

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#51214 - 25/12/2001 02:09 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: jbauer]
CHiP
enthusiast

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Yes, thanks for adding this feature, i have not tried it yet, but i'm going to upgrade to 2.0b7 and download alll my tracks since i have lost my local collection due to hard drive crash. (yes, i've learned my lesson, i'll back it up this time.) i just hope it will batch download entire playlists, and put them in the proper folders, like Jemplode does.
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#51215 - 25/12/2001 04:01 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: rob]
svferris
addict

Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
but that's not going to happen while we're selling empegs for $199

Now if only SonicBlue had found a way to magically manufacture the empegs so that they could sell them at $199 and make a profit...then we'd see the kind of empeg community that you were hoping for.

Unfortunately, a top quality product like the empeg requires top quality equipment, which isn't really cheap unless you can find a way to mass produce them. But, even still, the HDs still would cost a good portion.

I guess it'll always be the underground product it is, with it's loyal (cultish) following.
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#51216 - 25/12/2001 05:28 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: svferris]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Fact is you can't even buy a decent CD head unit for $199!

Rob

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#51217 - 25/12/2001 05:30 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: CHiP]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
It doesn't recreate playlist structure yet. This is the quick implementation, due to getting the go-ahead at the last minute!

Rob

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#51218 - 25/12/2001 13:27 Re: Downloading from emplode! [Re: rob]
smu
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Hi Rob.

Any chance for emplode to get some command-line options like those on emptool? Plus some options to download and upload specific FIDs? I tried some time last weekend, but I couldn't built a small utility to access specific FIDs on the empeg. I just don't really get the emptool source structure into my mind well. Letting the USB issue aside for now ;-(

cu,
sven
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