If i get a pc and insert into it a ethernet card and a wireless network card, they get a laptop with a sprinkling of a wireless network card.

Ccould i then plug the empeg into the pc ethernet card and talk to it via wireless laptop.

If you configure PC for routing, yes. I don't know how is that done in Windows, though (but is definitely possible).

If you use W2k then it's very easy!

Check this link up: http://www.elementkjournals.com/ntp/9912/ntp99c1.htm

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Nope it will be on a win me pc

The best thing will be if you wanna use this feature to upgrade to W2K or XP! I think there is a network tool ICS (Internet Connection Sharing) for 98SE and ME inkl. in the operating system.

http://www.infinisource.com/techfiles/ics-install.html

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Okay i think you guys have got the wrong end of the stick here

What i want to do is have the pc sitting with two cards in it one ethernet card and one wireless card.

Then plug the empeg into the ethernet card

At the same time i want to have a laptop with a wireless network card

The laptop would be talking to the PC and i would use some sort of internet sharing facility but what i want to know is can i then get the laptop to go through wireless and talk to the empeg via the ethernet card and pc.

Cl

Just a short recap to see if I understand you correctly

- you want to connect your empeg via Cross cable directly to the ethernet card in PC
- Both your PC and Laptop have Wireless adapters

I'm not familiar with that s**tty windows ME but with NT4 there was an option with TCP/IP somewhat like "Enable IP forwarding" which basicly means you can use the PC as a router. If this option exists in ME (and it probably won't) it can be done "out of the box", otherwise you need some utility to overcome this (something like winroute would probably be sufficient). But like mentioned by crazymelki you'd probably be better of upgrading to W2k anyway.

Don't know if it's an option but doesn't your wireless hub have a "spare" RJ45 socket so you can hook up the empeg to that instead of the PC ? It would make life lots easier for this particular wish

bingo

but i don't have a wireless hub i am going to try connecting just via two wireless cards together if that be possible.

Ain't bought anything yet but just seeing if it can be done easily.

I did a quick google search and found this (slow link) but many other manufacurers insist on the fact that you need an access point/wireless hub. Maybe someone else here has some hands-on experience with this ?

I have an 802.11b wireless access point. What is an inexpensive but quality device that will allow me to do wireless to my empeg? Most of the one's I've seen are PCMICA, PCI, or USB...

- Jon

I do it without an access point, but I use an OpenBSD machine as the gateway. Don't really know if it can be done with Windows, though.

That's in the FAQ. Some folks have suggested the Orinoco/EC, as it works as a client, not an access point.

You're asking two totally separate questions:


1) Can I use Windows to act as a router, routing ethernet traffic between two network cards?

The answer is yes, but you need to configure special routing software to do it. Windows server products, as well as Windows XP, come with this routing software by default. For Win95/98/ME, you need to install such software.

I don't know how to set up that kind of software on ME, because I have only worked with it on the Windows server products.



2) Will two wireless PCMCIA adapters talk to each other without a base station?

This is tricky, but I think it can be done. They aren't meant to work that way, but I get the feeling it is possible to program a card to act like a base station. I think it depends on whose brands of cards you buy, and what software is used to drive them.

Rumor has it that if you crack open one of those base stations and look inside, you'll see a little PCMCIA card sitting there. So whether or not the card works like base station is just a question of firmware programming.




Unfortunately, since I haven't done either of these things, I can't offer you details on how to get the job done. I was just writing this message to clarify that you are talking about doing two completely different things at the same time, and it will require two different solutions.

Excellent that gives me a start as to what i am looking for windows routing software

Thanks tony

P.S. anyone know where i could get this software

As to the cards i might end up with a base station as the girlfriend is enforing a no wire policy in her house

You can (sometimes) get an 802.11b card to act like an access point, but it's also possible to run in Ad-Hoc instead of Infrastructure mode, which allows a network to be built from a collection of clients without an AP. This is not 100% supported, as it's supposed to be a demo or temporary solution, and some cards (drivers, really) don't support it at all. To add to the grief, the nomenclature has become contaminated, and the same term can sometimes mean two opposite things.

2) Will two wireless PCMCIA adapters talk to each other without a base station?

This is tricky, but I think it can be done. They aren't meant to work that way

I'm not sure if I'm understanding this correctly, but using the software that came with my wireless network cards (of two varieties: Linksys and Netgear), there's different modes (Ad Hoc, Infrastructure) to dictate which type of network you're using.

Infrastructure mode uses an access point (the way I've always used mine) and Ad Hoc mode allows you to just have mutliple devices with wireless cards talk to each other without an access point.

Do I not understand this correctly? I was sure that they are meant to work that way.

I used WinRoute Lite for a while before I got a real OS up and running as a router. It was not bad. They also provide Tiny Personal Firewall for free, which is bound to also enable routing, as a firewall without routing is, well, not much.

Ad Hoc mode allows you to just have mutliple devices with wireless cards talk to each other without an access point.

And I tried for hours to get a piece-of-[censored] Linksys card to work in Ad Hoc mode and never could.

Like I said, depends on the brand of card and the software.

I was running in Ad-Hoc mode forever with a WaveLAN card on a Windows laptop, a WaveLAN card in an OpenBSD desktop (via an ISA PCMCIA adapter), and an iBook with Apple's 802.11b card. Until I upgraded to MacOSX, which no longer allowed Ad-Hoc mode (thanks, Apple!). Now I use the iBook as an access point using software that came with the OS. Interestingly, the other computers can communicate even when the iBook is powered off. I think that the AP might just kickstart the network, after which it can run independently. (On a marginally related note, MacOS9.2 does not allow the iBook to become an AP in the same manner as MacOSX, which means if I have to reboot to 9.2, I have to reconfigure my network. Until I discovered that sometimes the network name is still floating around out there, and I can join the network. Weird.)