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#53222 - 01/01/2002 14:49 Problems with Ethernet
ninti
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
I am having trouble getting Ethernet working on my new MkIIa. Right out of the box it worked with the USB and serial connections, but getting the Ethernet working seems to eluding me.

I found another thread here that talks about something kinda similiar and tried the things suggested there, and I have checked off everything in the FAQ section dealing with this as well.

Emplode is running on Win2K, the Empeg is set up on a small hub with several other computers. The cable works 100% (even at 100mb). The link line on both sides is on, and the hub is correctly sensing it to be 10mbs. I have tried several IP addresses in the little class C 192.168.1.XX network (there is no DHCP). My netmask is good, the gatway is correct (though irrelevant I would think.)

And yes, the Empeg is plugged in.

I have since installed the 1.03 developer image in an attempt to do some troubleshooting on the Empeg side, but ifconfig and ping are absent.

I am new to the Empeg of course, but I am pretty computer savvy. I know my way around Unix as a user, but Unix systems administrator is not something I can claim on my resume. Any advice as to additional ways to troubleshoot this problem would be very much appreciated.
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#53223 - 01/01/2002 16:51 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: ninti]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Wander over to http://www.differentpla.net/~roger/empeg/car/extras.html and grab ifconfig and ping.
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#53224 - 01/01/2002 17:15 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: ninti]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
the hub is correctly sensing it to be 10mbs.

It is possible that the hub is the problem. There are reports of 10/100 hubs that don't properly work with car player, despite claiming that the port is working at 10. I don't know if this is the hub's fault or the player's fault.

Or maybe what you need to do is throttle your PC's ethernet card back to 10 and that might make it work?
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#53225 - 01/01/2002 20:00 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: Roger]
ninti
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
Cool, thanks for the utils, I appreciate it.

I had to use RW instead of RWM when unzipping though, and had to use tar -xvf instead of -xvfz (you forgot the dash in -xvfz in the docs BTW).
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#53226 - 01/01/2002 20:06 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: tfabris]
ninti
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
Tony, I swear, you are the man around here, aren't you?

That was totally it. I hooked up another hub and it works fine now. Just for the record, the offending hub is a Linksys EtherFast 10/100 Auto-sensing 8-port hub.

Thanks a bunch,
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#53227 - 01/01/2002 20:13 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: ninti]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
If I had to guess the brand, I would have said Linksys or D-Link. They seem to be the cheapest (quality) of the cheap brands. If you want cheap networking stuff, the only brand I would go with is Netgear.
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#53228 - 01/01/2002 20:28 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: ninti]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Thanks, I'm going to beef up the wording on this subject in the FAQ.
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#53229 - 01/01/2002 20:58 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: ninti]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
To be totally off-topic, the tar utility was originally designed to not use dashes in its argument list. These days, most tar implementations accept arguments both with and without dashes, but many claim that you should use the dashes, which many people consider to be incorrect. Regardless, all implementations take arguments without dashes, but only most take them with dashes, so without dashes is more correct. (Spoken like a true old Unix fart.)
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#53230 - 01/01/2002 22:36 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: wfaulk]
skritch
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Registered: 22/12/2001
Posts: 56
Loc: San Jose, CA
Yep. I believe the POSIX standard (and Stallman's GNU efforts being promulgated to Linux) is responsible for tar's dashes. I never use 'em, myself.
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#53231 - 02/01/2002 03:09 Re: Problems with Ethernet [Re: ninti]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
Let me guess, you used Netscape, right?

It used to have a habit of decompressing .gz files as it downloads them, without removing the extension. I'm guessing that they've not fixed it. This would explain why you didn't need the 'z' for tar.

And the dashes are optional in the tar in the empeg developer image, like somebody else already said.

I'll update the pages about the RW and RWM stuff, though.
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