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#70506 - 12/02/2002 19:11 Hijack temp question
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
I have a question about the temp of my RioCar. I installed the latest Hijack on 2.0b11 and the vital signs show my player at -4c/25F when it's been inside my office all day. Also, the High Temp Warning says that it's corrected by -4c/-7F. Why is this? Also, why does it have the wrong temp?

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#70507 - 12/02/2002 19:20 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: Ruffles]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
It is possible that your temp sensor is malfunctioning.

The empeg guys were planning on implementing a temp sensor feature, until they discovered that the temp sensor did not work in all of the production units. Hence, they did not implement the feature because there was no point in taking all those warranty returns back for something that wasn't going to get used.
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#70508 - 12/02/2002 20:14 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: Ruffles]
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
Back when I had beta 7 on the player this used to work. I just reinstalled b7 and it's broke on it as well. If my temp sensor is not working, can I get it fixed under warrenty? It's less than a year old.

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#70509 - 12/02/2002 20:37 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: Ruffles]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
The point I was trying to make is that they deliberately did not enable the temperature-sensing feature in the software because they knew that a certain percentage of the sensors were pants. So, since the temp-sensing is not a supported feature of the player, if the sensor is bad I don't think they'd want to replace it under warranty.

(Anglophiles: Did I use "pants" correctly in that context?)
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#70510 - 12/02/2002 23:01 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: tfabris]
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
Isn't the player supposed to have thermal protection against over heating? It would seem that that feature would be comprimised.

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#70511 - 12/02/2002 23:20 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: Ruffles]
Ruffles
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Registered: 29/03/2000
Posts: 106
Loc: Seattle, WA
Well, it looks like it's the sensor that went bad. I got out my backup player and upgraded it to 2.0b11 and then connected the two players to hyperterm and did the self test...

My original player:

0400 temperature detect
0410 temperature is 00
04f0 temperature ok

My backup:

0400 temperature detect
0410 temperature is 31
04f0 temperature ok


This bites. It's going to bug me now that I know one of my players isn't functioning right.


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#70512 - 13/02/2002 04:51 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: Ruffles]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
No, it's never had that feature. The temperature sensor has never been used by any of our software.

Rob

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#70513 - 13/02/2002 05:43 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: tfabris]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Anglophiles: Did I use "pants" correctly in that context

Not bad Tony, we'll make a convert of you yet. Now, have you started practicing drinking warm beer yet ?
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#70514 - 13/02/2002 12:51 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: Ruffles]
beaker
addict

Registered: 19/08/2000
Posts: 588
Loc: England
Mine died a few days ago too. I reported it in the technical forum. Here's a PM from Hugo about it.

In reply to:

It's a SO-8W dallas DS1821S, ISTR it's somewhere just behind the RAM chips - quite a wide chip.

It's surface mount, and so not desparately easy to replace; you may be able to get free samples from www.maxim-ic.com though. Personally, I wouldn't bother replacing it, as it doesn't really perform any useful function wrt to player operation!

Hugo


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#70515 - 13/02/2002 14:44 Re: Hijack temp question [Re: beaker]
guardian__J
enthusiast

Registered: 28/01/2002
Posts: 265
Loc: MI, USA
Cool...
I'm glad to know I got a little bit of Texas in my empeg...
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