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#7800 - 21/03/2000 10:36 Radio mode + visuals
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
There is an easy to trigger bug in beta10, don't know if it was there before or not. If you select the visuals menu in radio mode the unit restarts (losing any recently changed info/visual settings).

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#7801 - 22/03/2000 03:31 Re: Radio mode + visuals [Re: andy]
Lord Bleys
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Registered: 30/12/1999
Posts: 143
This happened to me a few hours ago, as well only I wasn't in radio mode -- I was playing MP3s on the unit. I'm running consumer beta10.

The unit was in the docking sled, booted, and happily playing music. I was using the remote to select the visuals menu and demonstrate to someone the new visuals functionality (names and menu selection) when the unit rebooted. I do not recall which visual I was on at the time of occurrence (or if it matters).

The car had only been running for about a minute. I've not seen anything like this before and am 100% sure connections are correct and secure in the vehicle; the sled connections were triple checked, soldered, and properly shielded with heat shrink tubing; last check was done in December after an internal fuse blew on the unit and Rob asked me to make absolutely sure of the connections before we proceeded with repair.

I could not reproduce the problem -- but didn't spend a lot of time with it, either. I'll try again with more intensity, tomorrow.

-- Bleys

"If you would judge, understand." -- Seneca
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#7802 - 23/03/2000 07:48 Rebooting Bug [Re: Lord Bleys]
Dearing
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Registered: 22/07/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: Florida
I've noticed this, too. I'm not sure yet if it has to do with the visual (I've been running Hula Hoops since I got b10), but it seems every time I start my car now, Emma (thanks, Henno) plays a couple of seconds of music and reboots. This isn't a FULL reboot; it takes about 2 seconds and the bootup text scrolls up the display.
This started when I loaded Consumer beta-10.
Thanks,
Jason

_~= Dearing =~_
"WAY too happy about having #99."
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#7803 - 23/03/2000 08:13 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: Dearing]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
You can't ALL call your empegs Emma! :-)


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#7804 - 23/03/2000 08:51 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: rob]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Yeah! I was the first, so how come everyone's copying me?

(And if you want proof, check out my first postings following the arrival of my unit, number 00015, last August).

PS. This thread, to be precise:

http://empeg.comms.net/cgi-bin/showpost.pl?Board=install&Number=149&page=5&view=collapsed&sb=5

- I hereby claim the right to call my empeg "Emma".

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#7805 - 23/03/2000 09:29 Re: Rebooting Bug / Emma [Re: Dearing]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
Emma (thanks, Henno)

Although I too call her Emma sometimes, I didn't invent it. Rob Schofiel slipped his tongue when I came over to his place to have a look at his Empeg (with a very low serial number) when my number came up. In his enthousiasm he called it/her Emma - I didn't understand it then but sent in my creditcard details anyhow.

Both of us call her Emma now, I guess . . . .
It shouldn't matter; they're twins

Henno
# 00120 (6GB+18)
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#7806 - 23/03/2000 09:53 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: Dearing]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
I've noticed this, too. ( . . ) every time I start my car

Funny; I've had it too, but only once. It may well be a genuine bug. Too bad that it shows up just now the empeg team is trying to build a stable release. Except for this one incident that happened very shortly after upgrading; Emma (sorry Rob)was still on the desk. Since then the release has been rock solid. Especially the dependable syncs are a relief.

Henno
# 00120 (6GB+18)
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#7807 - 23/03/2000 09:54 Re: Radio mode visuals [Re: Lord Bleys]
dionysus
veteran

Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
confirmed - the reboot but just happened to me too... within a minute of turning on the car (it was in radio mode), i went to select empeg mode but hit visuals instead since the menu's been shifted (I had memoriezed the old key strokes:) ) , crash - reboot; weird thing is that it came back in empeg mode with a visual...
-mark
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...proud to have one of the first Mark I units
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#7808 - 23/03/2000 10:06 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: schofiel]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I didn't even get the chance to name mine - when Hugo handed it over, back in the mists of time, it already had a little sticker saying "Jemima".



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#7809 - 23/03/2000 10:27 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: rob]
Henno
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Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
when Hugo handed it over

You mean you got her for free ??

Henno
# 00120 (6GB+18)
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#7810 - 23/03/2000 10:48 Re: Rebooting Bug / Emma [Re: Henno]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK


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#7811 - 23/03/2000 10:59 Re: Rebooting Bug-Emma [Re: schofiel]
Dearing
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Registered: 22/07/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: Florida
Sorry, Rob. I guess I read too many posts on this BBS!
-Dibs on 'Emmy'!

Anyway, Empeg team, I assume this fix will go in 10a? I'm guessing you already knew about it, as it seems to happen across the board (NPI).
Thanks,
Jason

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"WAY too happy about having #99."
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#7812 - 24/03/2000 02:09 Re: Radio mode + visuals [Re: Lord Bleys]
Lord Bleys
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Registered: 30/12/1999
Posts: 143
No luck in reproduction, so far. I tried with the unit out of the sled and had no success. I'm still going to try with it in the sled.

I'm a college basketball nut who is attending three games of the Sweet 16 NCAA tournament this weekend. You may not hear from me until I get the beer out of my system.

-- Bleys

"If you would judge, understand." -- Seneca
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#7813 - 24/03/2000 03:49 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: Henno]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Well I do run Customer Services - it was considered useful for me to know how to use the product :)

Rob



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#7814 - 24/03/2000 05:56 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: rob]
mac
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Registered: 20/05/1999
Posts: 411
Loc: Cambridge, UK
I'm afraid I was responsible for naming it Jemima. I was starting a trend of naming them after Childrens' TV characters. The trend lasted for one unit.

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I may not be speaking on behalf of empeg above :-)
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#7815 - 24/03/2000 07:09 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: mac]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
> The trend lasted for one unit.

Well then, if I land a Mark 2 prototype I'll call it Big Ted.

Rob



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#7816 - 24/03/2000 08:00 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: rob]
mac
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Registered: 20/05/1999
Posts: 411
Loc: Cambridge, UK
Well then, if I land a Mark 2 prototype I'll call it Big Ted.

Does that mean I'll get to throw it through the square window?

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I may not be speaking on behalf of empeg above :-)
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#7817 - 24/03/2000 09:45 Re: Rebooting Bug [Re: mac]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Not if 'is mate Little Ted 'as anyfin' ter do wiv it, you won't!

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#7818 - 24/03/2000 16:35 Hula Hoop Reboot [Re: Dearing]
corby
journeyman

Registered: 05/10/1999
Posts: 89
I encountered the rebooting bug as described for the very first time this morning. This morning was also the first time that I started a playlist while the Hula Hoop visual was selected (several of the less educated inhabitants on this board don't realize that FunnelWeb and Anna Vu are much cooler). B)

Since leaving the Hula Hoop visual selected, every time I have started a playlist or powered on the unit, I have experienced the reboot bug.

This afternoon, I switched back to good ol' FunnelWeb, and I haven't experienced the bug since.

Corby
SN#320, 6-Gig Blue


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#7819 - 24/03/2000 17:13 Re: Hula Hoop Reboot [Re: corby]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I just tried it and had no trouble- I can't reproduce the bug. I was running on AC power, though, were you referring to in-car only?

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#7820 - 25/03/2000 01:02 Re: Hula Hoop Reboot [Re: tfabris]
corby
journeyman

Registered: 05/10/1999
Posts: 89
No, I had it happen both in-car and on AC power.

Corby
SN#320, 6-Gig Blue


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