#252483 - 23/03/2005 15:47
Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Okay just purchased my 787th CD (Rupert Holms Escape) and I am looking for the best possible sound quality from my empeg I don’t care if that means buying bigger drives or re-ripping all of them again, looking for suggestions on which format and what Windows based programs to rip/encode them with. I have the following cavaots.
1. Must support some form or tagging (ID3 etc…)
2. Some form of compression even with the largest drives you can put in an empeg you can’t store 787 Cd’s worth in wav format.
3. Would like it to be no more then a two step process, all in one would be even better.
4. Would like to see the ability to extract full range sound ~5Hz to ~50 KHz (yes I know you can’t hear those sounds but if I am going to re-rip them all I wan’t to do it once and have something I can use in the feature if a better format comes along.
So I need suggestions of encoding format and a program to do it with
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#252484 - 23/03/2005 16:26
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
[Re: belezeebub]
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4. Would like to see the ability to extract full range sound ~5Hz to ~50 KHz
IIRC Nyquist has some issues with a 50kHz signal and a 44.1kHz sampling rate...
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(yes I know you can’t hear those sounds but if I am going to re-rip them all I wan’t to do it once and have something I can use in the feature if a better format comes along.
So I need suggestions of encoding format and a program to do it with
I'd say EAC is probably as good as it gets when it comes to getting the bits off the CDs... any ev. frequency losses would AFAIK only come from the codec. not the ripper.
For futureproofing you'll probably want a lossless compression format (if you can manage the storage, not sur how much the lossless formats compress...) - from that you can always unpack and recode into whatever format popular/required at the time w/o unneccessary losses. I'm not really up to speed on lossless formats, as to what exists or what features (tagging etc) they support...
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#252485 - 23/03/2005 16:34
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
[Re: mtempsch]
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For futureproofing you'll probably want a lossless compression format (if you can manage the storage, not sur how much the lossless formats compress...) - from that you can always unpack and recode into whatever format popular/required at the time w/o unneccessary losses.
Just use FLAC and as you say, transcode it to whatever you want later on.
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#252486 - 23/03/2005 16:35
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
[Re: belezeebub]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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So I need suggestions of encoding format and a program to do it with
Rip to Flac with EAC. You'll need about 240Gbytes, but that's not hard to find on a PC these days. FLAC supports all the tags you need, and in a Unicode-safe way, too. Then you'll need a batch converter that turns them all into MP3s. (You won't get them all on a 20G Karma at acceptable quality, but a moderately-sized car-player should fit them on at decent quality.) That way when 120G, or 160G, laptop drives come out you can ditch the MP3s and don't need to re-rip again.
I use some scripts on Linux that Mike knocked up, but I'm sure there are ways of doing batch-conversion under Windows too.
Peter
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#252487 - 23/03/2005 16:45
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Hummm 260Gb (Evil grin) nope I don't think I have that much free space Dang guess you twisted my arm so I need to go buy a new computer (EG)
Belezeebub (Server at home dual 2Ghz Xeon) with 2 3ware 8506-12 Controlers with 12 160G drives each in mirriored Raid 50 Nope no space here need to go buy a new pc. (EG)
Rip to Flac with EAC. You'll need about 240Gbytes, but that's not hard to find on a PC these days. Peter
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#252488 - 23/03/2005 17:23
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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I just finished ripping my entire collection to FLAC and MP3 (LAME alt-preset-extreme).
I have 1777 discs and that took 613GB in FLAC and 164GB in MP3.
I used MAREO with Exact Audio Copy to rip and encode them in both formats all in one step.
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#252489 - 23/03/2005 19:13
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Nope no space here need to go buy a new pc.
Come to papa.
Peter
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#252490 - 23/03/2005 20:25
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Yeah, that'd do it. Quote:
42 Hot Swap Drive Bays support up to 16TB
Designed to meet stringent data storage requirements, the RM8042 allows for front-accessible and hot-swappable 40 HDD bays, supporting up to 16TB capacity. To minimize system downtime, the RM8042 is equipped with RAID 0/1 configuration for data mirroring capable of auto-rebuilding. It’s also compatible with 3 Ware Raid Card. This 8U-high chassis supports 10 pieces of 4 in 1 exchangeable SCSI Ultra320/SATA horizontal backplanes with multilane bridge to meet different business criteria, whether it is for performance or cost-effective solution. The RM8042 provides storage configuration flexibility, including 2 x Slim CD-ROM + 1 x Standard FDD + 2 x Hot-Swap 3.5 “ HDD in the rear ( For Operation System ) + 1 x slim FDD + 1 x 5.25 “ exposed bays .
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#252491 - 23/03/2005 21:25
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Well I see that to play Flac I need v3bXXX or greater I know the Empeg is no longer supported but any chance on V3 full release comming out before I get all my cd's converted to flac?
Seems like V3B8 has a few buggs that would annoy the pants off of me.
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#252492 - 24/03/2005 08:36
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Seems like V3B8 has a few buggs that would annoy the pants off of me.
That's v3a8 -- it's an alpha, not a beta.
There's a slim-to-negligible chance of a full release at any point. If history is any guide, there might be a v3a9 in July, for the owner's meet, but there's no guarantee.
Which bugs are you referring to? There are bugs in the tuner/RDS code, but nothing else has given me any serious trouble.
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#252493 - 24/03/2005 10:39
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Which bugs are you referring to? There are bugs in the tuner/RDS code, but nothing else has given me any serious trouble.
1. Mark track for attention appears to be random
2. Bookmarking is unreliable
3. Occasionally fails to save where it last left off. I know the faq says that this can happen but v2 never gave me any trouble.
4. Player occasionally locks up and I have to reboot and hit the skip to next track and reboot again to get it going.
Number two is forcing me to go back to v2 and number 1 was a feature I missed too.
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#252494 - 24/03/2005 11:37
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Number 4 on your list should be fixable by simply installing a Hijack kernel.
(Lavatory Floor visual crash-loop)
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#252495 - 24/03/2005 21:00
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Number 4 on your list should be fixable by simply installing a Hijack kernel.
I am using Hijack, you mean there are people who don't use it?
Is there something you have to configure?
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#252496 - 24/03/2005 22:14
Re: Flacc, and MP3 and Ogg Oh my
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Oh, well if you already have Hijack installed, then (4) must be some other problem.
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