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#112167 - 20/08/2002 22:49 Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less
grgcombs
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ftp://ftp.arm.linux.org.uk/pub/linux/arm/people/nico/vorbis/

Compiling (with the cross compiler) the source yields a decoder that will successfully decode ogg files on the empeg.

The player they include 'vplay' is non-functioning, but we've got ways around that ...

That decoder took just under two minutes to decode (to a file) a 5 minute ogg song. I think it was 117 bit. But there won't be so much disk overhead when it's not having to write out a file while reading another from the same filesystem. And never the less it was still over twice as fast as it had to be for writing out to the audio device.

I got the resulting pcm file (from the decoder) to play using:
'dd if=Hydrate.pcm of=/dev/audio bs=4608'

And it sounds great.

Greg
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#112168 - 20/08/2002 23:03 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: grgcombs]
wfaulk
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Very cool.

Wouldn't ``decoder < bitstream.ogg | dd of=/dev/audio obs=4608'' work?
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#112169 - 21/08/2002 03:07 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: grgcombs]
tms13
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In reply to:

a 5 minute ogg song. I think it was 117 bit


I'm impressed - if OGG encodes everything that small, I should be able to get my entire collection into RAM...
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#112170 - 21/08/2002 03:52 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: tms13]
andym
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In reply to:

I'm impressed - if OGG encodes everything that small, I should be able to get my entire collection into RAM...




Yeah, and pgrzelak's empeg would be able to hold all music that has ever been recorded!
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#112171 - 21/08/2002 04:48 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: andym]
pgrzelak
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Greetings!

Haven't we had that debate somewhere before??? Still, a free integer OGG raises some interesting possibilities. Does anyone know of a good OGG to MP3 comparison table or study?
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#112172 - 21/08/2002 06:52 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: tms13]
grgcombs
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I'm sure my measurement and description was supposed to be pretty scientific to satisfy you guys, but looking at it in the light of day ... there's something to be said for going to bed early.



Greg
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#112173 - 21/08/2002 07:10 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: wfaulk]
grgcombs
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Well, something's not right then, cuz this produces no audio. Should that be bs=4608?

Greg
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#112174 - 21/08/2002 09:01 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: grgcombs]
wfaulk
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Maybe. I'm not up on how the empeg's audio device works, nor am I a dd expert.
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#112175 - 21/08/2002 20:15 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: wfaulk]
canuckInOR
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I think he's just double checking that you meant to type "bs=4608", as opposed to "obs=4608".


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#112176 - 21/08/2002 20:25 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: canuckInOR]
wfaulk
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Well, I meant ``obs'', but ``bs'' might work better. I don't know. I was suggesting he try it the other way.
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#112177 - 22/08/2002 02:12 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: wfaulk]
peter
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Well, I meant ``obs'', but ``bs'' might work better.

You did mean "obs". Just setting "bs" doesn't do what you expect. The other thing to bear in mind is that you must have played audio from the player (since the last reboot) before doing this, so the player can unset the DSP mute, which is on by default.

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#112178 - 25/08/2002 00:50 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: peter]
CityBeach
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The Empeg player has got to be upgraded to allow user-added decoders. If not, it's no better than a PhatBox or Neo.

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#112179 - 25/08/2002 10:56 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: CityBeach]
tfabris
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It can be upgraded to allow user-added decoders.

If you replace the player software. Or you do something clever in the kernel too fool the player software. Both are possible. Would you like to be the first to implement it?
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#112180 - 25/08/2002 11:22 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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    I can be upgraded to allow user-added decoders.
Aha!!! Proof!

We always knew you were a robot!
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#112181 - 25/08/2002 11:24 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Ah, see, but in true Douglas Adams style, that's actually proof AGAINST my being a robot. Robots don't make typos.

(Corrected.)
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#112182 - 25/08/2002 15:25 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: CityBeach]
msaeger
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The Empeg player has got to be upgraded to allow user-added decoders. If not, it's no better than a PhatBox or Neo.

Oh yeah right
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#112183 - 25/08/2002 20:51 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: peter]
grgcombs
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This is what the problem was. "obs" and the rest of bitt's command line was correct. After playing audio from the player, this command worked, as did the decoder. That mute thing has bitten my butt a couple of times before, you'd think I would remember it.

Greg
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#112184 - 27/08/2002 04:52 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: tfabris]
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'Ah, see, but in true Douglas Adams style, that's actually proof AGAINST my being a robot. Robots don't make typos.'

lol- probably my favorite part of any of his books BTW.
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#112185 - 27/08/2002 10:56 Re: Integer Ogg Vorbis works ... for free no less [Re: JeffS]
tfabris
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Ah, that was easy.

(/me gets killed at the next crosswalk)
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