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#195910 - 04/01/2004 20:54 Futuristic Boot Logo?
burdell1
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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I know this is very vague, but does anyone know of or could make a boot logo with a futuristic look to it

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#195911 - 05/01/2004 12:15 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: burdell1]
Skunk
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Did you have somthing in mind?
If you have an example of what your looking for, I might be able to help.
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#195912 - 05/01/2004 16:16 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Some thing that says "2005".
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#195913 - 06/01/2004 00:58 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Loc: Portland, OR
Heh. In a digital font!

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#195914 - 06/01/2004 10:23 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: burdell1]
ithoughti
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Registered: 17/07/2001
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Loc: Boston, MA USA
maybe? Not?

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#195915 - 06/01/2004 10:30 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: ithoughti]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
maybe not. i dont see anything

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#195916 - 06/01/2004 15:39 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: burdell1]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
Ok... I tested it and I guess I'll stay with this boot logo on my empeg for a while. Looks good if you use the last frame as the Static Boot.
Futuristic??? well at least the font might pass for being futuristic.

Anyone else have an idea??

Edit: Sorry, look below for the attachment.


Edited by skunknumber1 (06/01/2004 15:40)
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#195917 - 06/01/2004 15:41 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
Skunk
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195250-Emptech2.gif (92 downloads)



Edited by skunknumber1 (06/01/2004 15:41)
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#195918 - 06/01/2004 15:44 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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OMG, that one is so cool!
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#195919 - 06/01/2004 15:44 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
Skunk
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Don't worry.... those lines at the bottom will not show up once uploaded.
(Why does it do that?)

Attached is the Static Boot in BIN format


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195253-emptech.bin (41 downloads)

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#195920 - 06/01/2004 15:47 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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(Why does it do that?)
It's probably an artifact of the program you're using to create the Animated GIF. There are some different options to control whether underlying frames are removed or not. This makes things display differently in different web browsers.

Odds are, the BIN file is fine, and perhaps the GIF displays correctly in your animation editor, but won't display right in IE.
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#195921 - 06/01/2004 15:58 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
It is IE cause when I open the file in any other viewer, including the preview window in XP, it show fine.
The only setting I saw were for transparency and interlacing, both which were disabled.



Edited by skunknumber1 (06/01/2004 15:58)
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#195922 - 06/01/2004 16:22 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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Interesting. When I preview your file, there is data in the bottom line of pixels as you intended. However, when I open the file in my animation editor, all of the frames are missing the bottom line of data. As if the information defining the boundaries of each frame subset are one line short on each frame. Yet the last line of each frame is there, since some programs display it correctly. I think it's a bug in your GIF creation program. Which one are you using?

An additional bug in your animator program is that it leaves a zero delay on each frame, instead of inserting a 80-100ms delay between each frame.

When I open and re-save the file using the Jemplode animation editor, the resulting file does not have the problem, and has the correct frame delay:



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195278-emptech3.gif (63 downloads)

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#195923 - 06/01/2004 16:29 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Whoa. When I use Ulead Gif Animator to optimize the file, it outputs the same (bad) result for the bottom pixel row. Only saving it from Jemplode results in a proper file. Wow.
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#195924 - 06/01/2004 17:21 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
Which one are you using?


Adobe ImageReady 7.0

It's only as the finished gif that it shows the artifacts. I extracted the individual frames from the original gif (the one with the artifacts) in three different programs and each frame is how it should be!?!!?!?

As for the delay, ImageReady gives you the option of user defined time.
I just use the default which is 0 sec.

About Jemplode's animation tool, I noticed that if you have identical frames in your "imported" file, Jemplode gives it the same frame sequence number. So in other words, if you have the same frame for frame 17 as frame 03, you won't see frame 17 in the finished file.

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#195925 - 06/01/2004 17:26 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
tfabris
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So in other words, if you have the same frame for frame 17 as frame 03, you won't see frame 17 in the finished file.
Oops. Bug. Somebody tell Mike.
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#195926 - 06/01/2004 17:27 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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And I just realized how much that logo reminds me of Paradroid...
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#195927 - 06/01/2004 17:44 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
speedy67
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Registered: 18/12/2000
Posts: 342
Loc: South-West-Germany
Yep, that's it. I was wondering of what it reminds me...

cheers, Thomas
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#195928 - 06/01/2004 18:07 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
SE_Sport_Driver
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skunky, I'm very impressed....
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#195929 - 06/01/2004 18:33 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
mrfixit
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Registered: 14/06/2002
Posts: 337
Cool boot logo, but I have a kinda dumb question... is there a way to view a bin file? I have other bin files on my pc that are maps/levels for the game "worms" is there a way to view\edit them ?
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#195930 - 06/01/2004 18:38 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: mrfixit]
tfabris
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"Bin" is just an arbitrary file extention meaning binary data. It's not a specific file format like a Word for Windows ".doc" file, it's not an image file like ".gif", and it's not an ASCII file like ".txt".

The BIN file for the empeg logos is different than the BIN files for your Worms game. For instance, the BIN files for the empeg logos are only viewable in the empeg logo editor, and if someone named an empeg animation file BIN, it would only be viewable in Jemplode, and neither could be opened in Worms. You can't expect to make a worms file out of an empeg logo, nor an empeg logo out of a worms file.
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#195931 - 06/01/2004 18:46 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
mrfixit
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Ah.. ok so the "bin" is a specific file that depends on the program that is using it. Also I thought the worms files were "bin" but I looked again and they are "bit" . Tony, you responded so fast, you must live on the pc
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#195932 - 06/01/2004 19:40 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
Thanks Brad,
It actually stemmed from your digitalempeg boot, you know, the "Matrix" one.

I wanted to remake that boot so that the 0's and 1's morphed into the empeg logo.
After many tries I wasn't happy with the way it was comming out so I directed my time elsewhere.
Then I though of the Circuit Board idea hoping it would be much easier to do. That was it though,
just an idea, I never did get around to creating it.


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#195933 - 06/01/2004 21:06 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: ithoughti]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
maybe? Not?


ahh, weirdness. youre picture wasnt showing while at work
shows fine here at home

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#195934 - 06/01/2004 21:50 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: Skunk]
SE_Sport_Driver
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I wonder if you made a "RIO Digital Audio" one if you could get it included with the new Alpha... ? Tony how'd you pull that off?
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#195935 - 06/01/2004 23:04 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
burdell1
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 931
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
That's funny..that was a similar idea to what I had...I was thinking that the Matrix symbols would be coming down, but each individual letter of the word empeg would come out of the falling matrix symbols........although this wasn't what I had in mind when I said "something futuristic"..but it is a start..

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#195936 - 07/01/2004 08:45 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: mrfixit]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 737
Loc: Washington, DC metro
Tony, you responded so fast, you must live on the pc
Everyone knows Tony's really a bot!

-jk

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#195937 - 07/01/2004 09:42 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
FYI, I've never seen any artifacts under Mozilla (on Sparc Solaris). My guess is it's a bug in your animated GIF rendering engine.
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#195938 - 07/01/2004 12:46 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: burdell1]
SE_Sport_Driver
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burdell, you're almost sounding unappreciative, but since everyone else who saw skunk's newest logo was blown away, I'd say it was more than worth his time!

If you havn't seen the Matrix one he was talking about, here it is:
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#195939 - 07/01/2004 16:54 Re: Futuristic Boot Logo? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Skunk
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Registered: 26/08/2003
Posts: 525
Loc: California
I wonder if you made a "RIO Digital Audio" one if you could get it included with the new Alpha... ?

OMG....that would be Soooo Sweeet!
I'm already stoked just to be part of this forum!
Even more so to own an Empeg.
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