So the Pilot wasn't borne of the Newton from Apple? If Palm thought they stood any chance with a patent infringement lawsuit against Apple, for specifics of the iPhone, they would have launched one, or more, in the past 1.5 years.

Elevation Partners saved Palm's ass more recently. They've been on the way out and it's obvious from their results that they don't know how to build a handset people want nor how to market it so that people do. Just look at all the money they've lost quarter after quarter. They've been having their collective asses handed to them by RIM.

The Pre is a nice effort for the consumer space, but it's going to be too little too late. What am I saying, it doesn't matter what it is, Palm would ruin it. Palm's attitude is hubristic to the core as well. Time to pay the piper sooner rather than later.